JMF: Last time we were together, we were talking about Karl Barth, Thomas Torrance, whom you studied under, and Trinitarian theology and how important that is for the walk of the average Christian. RA: The New Testament does not use the word Trinity. But it’s like every case, we have to think out the reality of the fact that Jesus said, “If you’ve seen me, you’ve seen God.” Paul said that, “In him the fullness of the Godhead dwells bodily.” John says, he is the divine Logos that was with God

Edited transcript J. Michael Feazell: Welcome to You’re Included. With us today is Dr. Ray Anderson. Dr. Anderson is senior professor of theology and ministry at Fuller Theological Seminary. He’s author of more than 20 books, including An Emergent Theology of Emerging Churches, and Judas and Jesus, Amazing Grace for the Wounded Soul. Dr. Anderson is also a contributing editor for the Journal of Psychology and Theology. Thank you for being with us today. Ray Anderson: Thank you, Mike, I’m glad to be here. JMF: We’re looking forward to discussing some very interesting and important topics. I want to begin by helping our