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  • You're Included Interview Series

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    Welcome to You're Included, a series of interviews with Trinitarian theologians, now hosted on the website of Grace Communion Seminary. Most programs are 25-28 minutes long, available in audio, video, and edited transcripts. They are alphabetized by the interviewees' last names, and then listed in chronological order.

    The most recent interviews are with Kerry Magruder, Thomas Noble, and Jenny Richards.

    Ray Anderson
    Jeremy Begbie
    Douglas Campbell_
    Elmer Colyer
    Gerrit Dawson
    Cathy Deddo
    Gary Deddo
    Gordon Fee
    David Fergusson
    Jeannine Graham    		 Myk Habets
    Trevor Hart
    George Hunsinger_
    Michael Jinkins
    Chris Kettler
    Baxter Kruger
    Kerry Magruder
    Alister McGrath
    John McKenna
    Jeff McSwain    		 Steve McVey
    Paul Metzger
    Paul Molnar
    Roger Newell
    Thomas Noble
    Cherith Nordling_
    Robin Parry
    Andrew Purves
    Jenny Richards
    Andrew Root    		 Fred Sanders
    Stephen Seamands
    Daniel Thimell
    Alan Torrance
    David Torrance
    Robert Walker
    N.T. Wright
    Paul Young
    Young & Kruger
    Geordie Ziegler

  • Ray Anderson

    Dr. Anderson studied under Thomas F. Torrance at Edinburgh University in Scotland. He was a pastor, a professor of theology and ministry at Fuller Theological Seminary, and author of numerous books. He died in 2009.

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      Ray Anderson, Starting Theology With Jesus Page

      In the first interview, Dr. Anderson points out the importance of having our theological viewpoint based on God's revelation of himself in Jesus Christ.

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      Ray Anderson, God and the Prodigal Son Page

      In this 49-minute program, Dr. Anderson talks about relating our lives to God’s reality, what God has become in becoming human, adoption, the parable of the prodigal, our necessary connection with Christ, and the emergent church.

  • Jeremy Begbie

    Jeremy BegbieJeremy Begbie, Professor of Theology at Duke Divinity School, received a PhD in 1987 from the University of Aberdeen. He is interviewed here by GCS President Gary W. Deddo. 

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      Jeremy Begbie, Journey in Music and Theology Page
      In this 23-minute interview, Dr. Begbie discusses the beginnings of his passion for music and theology, and explores various historical approaches to music.
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      Jeremy Begbie, Music and Theology Page

      In this 8-minute interview, Dr. Begbie shares his thoughts on the unique powers of music and how they enrich our understanding of theology.

  • Douglas A. Campbell

    Douglas CampbellDouglas A. Campbell is Professor of New Testament at Duke Divinity School in Durham, North Carolina. He received his PhD in 1989 from the University of Toronto.

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      Douglas Campbell, Our Participation With Christ Page

      This interview gets to the heart and core of Paul's gospel. It includes our Reality with a capital "R" plus our participation with Christ and with each other in communion with God. 28 minutes.

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      Douglas Campbell, Sin and Its Seriousness Page

      In the second interview, Dr. Campbell encourages us to look at the gospel of grace in a new way. He speaks about how the gospel addresses and informs our understanding of sin and ethics in a way that challenges the model of a conditional or contractual grace. 27 minutes.

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      Douglas Campbell, In Christ - Conversion and Calling Page

      The third interview looks at examples of how Paul brought the gospel and purpose to the mission field. 30 minutes.

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      Douglas Campbell, Understanding the Book of Romans Page

      The fourth interview focuses on the book of Romans, centering on the core teachings of Romans chapters 5 through 8. 25 minutes.

  • Elmer Colyer

    Elmer Colyer

    Elmer Colyer is professor of systematic theology at the University of Dubuque Theological Seminary, and pastor of a Methodist congregation. Dr. Colyer received his Ph.D. from Boston College/Andover Newton in 1992. 

  • Gerrit Scott Dawson

    Gerrit Scott DawsonGerrit Scott Dawson is senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He received his D.Min. degree in 2002 from Reformed Theological Seminary.

  • Cathy Deddo

    Cathy DeddoCathy Deddo received a master’s degree in theology from Fuller Theological Seminary. She is the author of Bible studies and reflections at www.trinitystudycenter.com. In this interview, she discusses the question, "What role does theology play in our everyday relationships?" 26:13

  • Gary Deddo

    Gary DeddoGary W. Deddo was, at the time of the interviews, a senior editor at InterVarsity Press. He is now Professor of Theology at Grace Communion Seminary. Dr. Deddo earned his PhD at the University of Aberdeen in Aberdeen, Scotland, under Professor James Torrance.


  • Gordon Fee

    Gordon FeeGordon Fee was a professor of New Testament at Regent College in Vancouver, British Columbia. He received his PhD in 1966 from the University of Southern California and died in 2022.

    We have three interviews with Dr. Fee:

  • David Fergusson

    David FergussonDavid A. S. Fergusson is Professor of Divinity and Principal at New College in the University of Edinburgh. He talks with Gary Deddo about his Gifford Lecture series and the resulting publication Faith and Its Critics: A Conversation. They discuss his thoughts on the critical views of religion held by new atheists. 26:40.

  • Jeannine Graham

    Dr. Jeannine GrahamDr. Jeannine Graham was the Associate Professor of Religious Studies, George Fox University, in Newburg, OR. She received her Ph.D. at the University of Aberdeen, under the direction of Professor James B. Torrance.

  • Myk Habets

    Myk HabetsMyk Habets is head of Carey Graduate School in New Zealand. He received his PhD from the University of Otago in 2006.

    The interviews with Dr. Habets were recorded, but the technical quality was not sufficient for either video or audio, but we were able to transcribe the interviews.

  • Trevor Hart

    Trevor HartTrevor Hart is Professor of Divinity at the University of St. Andrews in Edinburgh, Scotland. He received his PhD from the University of Aberdeen in 1989.

  • George Hunsinger

    George HunsingerGeorge Hunsinger, professor of systematic theology at Princeton Theological Seminary, received his PhD in 1988 from Yale University.

  • Michael Jinkins

    Michael JinkinsMichael Jinkins is president of Louisville Presbyterian Theological Seminary. He received his PhD from the University of Aberdeen in 1990.

    Michael Jinkins reflects on his time in seminary and discusses his book Invitation to Theology. 21:21

  • Christian Kettler

    Christian KettlerChristian Kettler is professor of religion at Friends University in Kansas. He received his PhD in 1986 from Fuller Theological Seminary, working with the late Dr. Ray Anderson.


  • C. Baxter Kruger

    C. Baxter KrugerC. Baxter Kruger earned his PhD in 1989 from Kings College, University of Aberdeen, studying under James B. Torrance. He is  president of Perichoresis, a non-profit ministry. 

    See near the end of this page for some interviews with William Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger together.

  • Kerry Magruder

    Kerry Magruder

    Kerry Magruder is Curator of the History of Science Collections, Associate Professor of Bibliography, and Associate Professor of the History of Science at the University of Oklahoma.

  • Alister McGrath

    Alister McGrath

    Alister McGrath, Professor of Science and Religion at Oxford University, earned a doctorate in molecular biophysics in 1977, a doctorate in divinity in 2001 and was awarded a third doctorate in 2013. In this interview, Dr. McGrath discusses his journey into the study of science and theology, his discovery of C. S. Lewis, and other issues. 31:04

  • John McKenna

    John McKennaJohn E. McKenna was adjunct Professor of Biblical Studies at Azusa Pacific Seminary and Grace Communion Seminary. He studied under Thomas F. Torrance at the University of Edinburgh and received his PhD from Fuller Theological Seminary. He died in 2018.

  • Jeff McSwain

    Jeff McSwainJeff McSwain is the founder of Reality Ministries of Durham, North Carolina. Jeff earned his doctorate in 2015 at the University of St. Andrews. 


  • Steve McVey

    Steve McVeySteve McVey (D.Min., Luther Rice Seminary), is founder of GraceWalk Ministries.


  • Paul Louis Metzger

    Paul Louis MetzgerPaul Louis Metzger is Professor of Christian Theology and Theology of Culture at King’s Multnomah University in Portland, Oregon. He received his PhD in 1999 from King's College in London.


  • Paul Molnar

    Paul MolnarPaul Molnar is professor of systematic theology at St. John’s University in New York. He received his PhD from Fordham University in 1980.


  • Roger J. Newell

    Roger NewellRoger J. Newell was Associate Professor of Religious Studies at George Fox University. Dr. Newell completed his doctoral studies under Professor James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland.


  • Thomas Noble

    Dr. Thomas NobleDr. Thomas A. Noble is Professor of Theology for Nazarene Theological Seminary, Kansas City, MO, and Visiting Lecturer and Ph.D. Research Supervisor at the Nazarene Theological College, Manchester, UK. He is the author of the book, Holy Trinity: Holy People: The Theology of Christian Perfecting. He studied under T.F. Torrance and earned his PhD in theology at the University of Edinburgh in 1989.

  • Cherith Fee Nordling

    Cherith Fee NordlingCherith Fee Nordling is Associate Professor at the Robert E. Webber Institute for Worship Studies at Regent College. She earned her PhD in 2003 from the University of St. Andrews in Scotland.


  • Robin Parry

    Robin ParryRobin Parry is an editor for Wipf and Stock Publishers. He received a PhD in 2001 from the Cheltenham and Gloucester College of Higher Education in England.

  • Andrew Purves

    Andrew PurvesAndrew Purves, Professor of Reformed Theology at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, received his PhD in 1978 from the University of Edinburgh, in Scotland.

  • Jenny Richards

    Jenny RichardsJenny Richards is Lecturer in Law and Academic Advisor in the College of Business, Government and Law in Flinders University, Australia. She is also studying for a PhD in theology. This interview was originally done for the podcast Gospel Reverb. Since the subject matter is similar to what has been covered in You're Included, we are including it in this list. There is no video.

  • Andrew Root

    Andrew RootAndrew Root, Chair of Youth and Family Ministry at Luther Seminary in St. Paul, Minnesota, received a Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary in 2005.


  • Fred Sanders

    Fred SandersFred Sanders is professor of theology in the Torrey Honors Institute at Biola University, La Mirada, CA. He received a PhD from the Graduate Theological Union (Berkeley, CA) in 2001.

  • Stephen Seamands

    Stephen SeamandsStephen Seamands is professor of Christian doctrine at Asbury Theological Seminary in Wilmore, Kentucky. He received his PhD from Drew University in 1983.

  • Daniel Thimell

    Daniel ThimellDaniel Thimell was Associate Professor of Theological-Historical Studies at Oral Roberts University. Dr. Thimell earned his Ph.D. from the University of Aberdeen in 1993.


  • Alan Torrance

    Alan TorranceAlan Torrance earned his doctorate in theology at the University of Erlangen-Nurnberg in Germany. He is professor of systematic theology at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland.


  • David Torrance

    David TorranceDavid Torrance studied in Basel, Switzerland, under Karl Barth and Oscar Cullmann. He served in the Church of Scotland from 1955 until his retirement.


  • Robert Walker

    Walker, RobertRobert T. Walker is a nephew of the late Thomas F. Torrance. He edited Torrance’s lecture notes into two books describing Torrance’s teachings about the person and work of Jesus Christ.


  • N.T. Wright

    N.T. WrightN.T. Wright is Chair of New Testament and Early Christianity at the School of Divinity at the University of St. Andrews, Scotland. He received a PhD from Oxford in 1980.

    In both interviews, Dr. Wright talks about themes in his book, How God Became King: The Forgotten Story of the Gospels.

  • William Paul Young

    William Paul Young

    William Paul Young is the author of the best-selling novel The Shack.


  • William Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger

    Baxter Kruger and Paul YoungAuthor Paul Young and theologian Baxter Kruger discuss topics related to the best-selling book The Shack.


  • Geordie Ziegler

    Geordie Ziegler, PhD, pastorGeordie Ziegler received a PhD in theology from the University of Aberdeen.

    In the first interview, Dr. Ziegler speaks about his book Trinitarian Grace and Participation: An Entry into the Theology of T.F. Torrance. He also discusses the profoundly personal and relational shape of God’s grace. Length: 21:47.

    In the second interview, he discusses an approach to spiritual formation that does not start with ourselves, but places at the center God the Father’s relationship with the eternal Son. Length: 25:41.